we need a third bucket, energy. the most prolific energy company in the world now. >> bret: when he says at one point several weeks ago that the president said we don't have a spending problem and boehner said, "mr. president, we have a serious spending problem." he repeated the message so often, he said toward the end of the negotiation the president became irritated and said to boehner, "i'm getting tired of hearing you say that." when you hear the quotes, what do you think? >> i'll be straight about this. anybody in a responsible position that doesn't understand we have a spending problem, driven by massive increases in entitlement costs, which nobody votes on when you put them all together, in a social security, medicare and other issues and the debt, it consumes more than 60% of the national revenue. if we don't deal with them, in 12, 15, a few more years we'll eat the revenue of the national government. everybody knows you have a spending problem. if you don't, if you say we don't you are trying to avoid it or